We talked about the inception of their podcast, which turns two this month, aspects of childhood travel that they miss and what makes family trips, even disastrous ones, worth taking.

This conversation has been condensed and edited for clarity.

Tell us how the podcast came about.

Seth: A family trip sort of stress-tests the family dynamic, both for the good and the bad. I think you really find out a lot about the people you’re closest with when it’s an away game.

Josh: We hear about where our guests come from and what they were like when they were children. I think our guests like talking about things that they don’t get a chance to talk about very often or no one would ask them about.

You’ve heard about many family trips gone sideways. What are your takeaways on family vacations?

Seth: You never know as a kid whether or not like 20 or 30 years in the future, you’re going to want to have a good family trip story for the purposes of being a guest on a podcast. Even if you’re going through it and you wish you were home in your bedroom reading a book, it is valuable content for later in your life.

What sorts of family trips did you take when you were children?

Seth: We were very much within the 50 United States. California for Disneyland, a lot of Florida. It is very funny to have grown up in an era where you just had to trust the brochure. There was no one to get in touch with who’d ever been to a place. There was nowhere to read online reviews. Just had to make a leap of faith.