That’s right. We need to have this conversation be about security, but security/and.

The president’s actions have definitely secured the border in many ways. However, the businesses along the border and the communities along the border are losing a lot of the traffic, missing a lot of the traffic that they have. And for a long time, the borderlands have thrived economically.

And so what we don’t want to see is the borderlands completely also taking a huge loss there economically as well. But we do need to secure the border and American people want that. But they also want lawful pathways for those that are here and contributing. They want to make sure that there is a legal way for folks to enter the country, to join this great country, to contribute, give back and to stay here legally.

So the president seems to be listening to that. And that’s exactly what American people want. Even conservatives, evangelicals and Republicans, when we polled them a few months ago, still say, up to 80 percent, that they want removals only focused on violent criminals and they want those that are here and contributing to be able to have a pathway to stay and continue to contribute.

So there is a border effort. We have to have a border security. And that’s been happening. And — but we need to make sure that the interior enforcement and the way we treat American workers is in line with what Americans want as well.